Ways to Recover a 3000 Password

My operator, in his infinite wisdom, decided to change passwords on MANAGER.SYS.  Of course he forgot, or fat-finger-checked; I don’t know.  At any rate, I need some help.  Any suggestions, other than a blindfold and cigarette?

Chuck Trites offered this solution:

Do you have the GOD program on your system ? If so, it has "SM" capability so it will allow you to do a LISTUSER MANAGER.SYS;PASS=

Duane Percox of QSS added a simpler approach:

If your operator can log onto operator.sys:

file xt=mytape;dev=disc
file syslist=$stdlist
store command.pub;*xt;directory;show

Using your favorite editor or other utility search for the string: "ALTUSER MANAGER  SYS"

You will notice: PAS=<the pwd>  which is your clue.

Plus, Steve Ritenour suggests that a logon to the TELSUP account will unlock the passwords. For some 3000 managers, the subject itself should be filed in a place not easily found. "These responses are all well and good," said Bruce Collins of Softvoyage, "but shouldn't we be thinking twice about posting this kind of information (i.e. how to hack an HP 3000) to the 3000 newsgroup?"

Bill Lancaster of Lund Performance Solutions disagreed. Secrecy about password recovery is not really a secret, he said.

A Google search with the right words will yield far more dangerous information about the 3000 that anything in this thread.  The genesis of this information on the net came through BBS’s in the 1980s. 

I’m afraid the barn door is already open.

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Ways to Recover a 3000 Password

My operator, in his infinite wisdom, decided to change passwords on MANAGER.SYS.  Of course he forgot, or fat-finger-checked; I don’t know.  At any rate, I need some help.  Any suggestions, other than a blindfold and cigarette?

Chuck Trites offered this solution:

Do you have the GOD program on your system ? If so, it has "SM" capability so it will allow you to do a LISTUSER MANAGER.SYS;PASS=

Duane Percox of QSS added a simpler approach:

If your operator can log onto operator.sys:

file xt=mytape;dev=disc
file syslist=$stdlist
store command.pub;*xt;directory;show

Using your favorite editor or other utility search for the string: "ALTUSER MANAGER  SYS"

You will notice: PAS=<the pwd>  which is your clue.

Plus, Steve Ritenour suggests that a logon to the TELSUP account will unlock the passwords. For some 3000 managers, the subject itself should be filed in a place not easily found. "These responses are all well and good," said Bruce Collins of Softvoyage, "but shouldn't we be thinking twice about posting this kind of information (i.e. how to hack an HP 3000) to the 3000 newsgroup?"